It’s a shame this didn’t happen on the post itself, but thanks to the social network, I was able to rope an old classmate of mine into an online discussion about this post.
It’s interesting that even though we agree in a general way, neither of us want to give latitude on one particular point. Hopefully he will continue to respond!
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Ryan: They are definitely not idiots. They are calculating people with an agenda!! …anyone who subscribes to this agenda/vision are the idiots, morons, retards, etc….
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Nicholas Hillier: I couldn’t disagree more. You are giving away too much credit. Granted, these two do tap into and exploit fear that naturally compels a certain portion of the population. However, this is not intelligence, it is an animal delusion devoid of empathy and logic. There is no calculation involved, only a dark and unchecked animus.
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Ryan: Dark & unchecked animus. I like it! But then again, who would David Koresh be without a hundred (or so) Branch Davidian mentally defective blockheads?? There are lots of people who think they are God’s incarnation in padded cells - but they are missing the followers.
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Nicholas Hillier: Sure, but we’re not talking about the mentally insane here. We’re talking about a couple of fear mongering crack pots in the media’s eye.
I don’t think it’s fair to equate the average citizen, susceptible to sensationalized ideas, with religious fanatics.
It’s perfectly legitimate to excuse a mother in charge of protecting her family from being swayed by Sarah Palin, who likes to generalize Muslims and imply really outlandish things like, they want to murder your babies.
This is not calculation, this is blatant fear mongering, as old as days, and just because you are good at it, or have gained a following, doesn’t mean you are intelligent… and so I stand by my comment that these two (among others) are slobbering fools.
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Ryan: I’ve run out of big words so you’re likely going to win this argument based on journalistic merit alone - but seriously, religious fanatics and citizens susceptible to sensationalized ideas are cut from the same cloth. Both lack the ability to rationalize. As for these slobbering fools - they have an apt for carrying out a very calculated agenda.
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Nicholas Hillier: Not calculated… it’s instinctual. They don’t spend their nights whittling away by candle light running logic simulations on public response. They respond to the public’s furor like animals in heat.
You want to blame legions of people for their ignorance, but I am more interested in the select few who, without considered thought, enrage the rabble in some sort of raptured racist cause.
Certainly there are those who lead by insidious design, but let’s not forget who we are talking about here… Sarah Palin? Bill O’Reilly? Glen Beck? These are not Machiavellian tacticians. They are a couple of assholes who deserve to be publicly flogged for their dangerous idiocy.
In our time there will always be a populous susceptible to flawed yet convincing rhetoric, but you can’t win that battle. It’s much more effective to cut off the head of the Dragon than to pick off it’s scales.